INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI: Minimum Wage Legislation | Program

INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI: Minimum Wage Legislation | Program


STATE LAWMAKERS APPEARED ON THE VERGE OF RAISING
HAWAIʻI’S MINIMUM WAGE LAST YEAR. BUT FAILED AT THE LAST MINUTE.
NOW, THEY’RE TRYING AGAIN. WITH A REWORKED BILL THAT CRITICS SAY FALLS FAR SHORT OF A SO‑CALLED LIVING WAGE. TO OFFSET HIGH COST LIVING THE ISLANDS.
WHAT SHOULD THE MINIMUM WAGE BE? HOW WILL WHATEVER DOES PASS AFFECT SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS WHO WILL ALSO STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET? TONIGHT’S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI START NOW.
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ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI…I’M DARYL HUFF.
DEMOCRATIC STATE LAWMAKERS AND THE GOVERNOR STARTED THE YEAR UNIFIED AROUND A PLAN TO
GRADUALLY RAISE HAWAIʻI’S MINIMUM WAGE TO 13‑DOLLARS PER HOUR BY 2024.
THE BILL IS MOVING ALONG…AND IS TIED TO TAX PROVISIONS TO HELP LOW‑WAGE EARNERS.
THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH USUALLY OPPOSES MINIMUM WAGE HIKES CALLED THIS YEAR’S PLAN
REASONABLE. CRITICS SAY $13 AN HOUR IS NOT ENOUGH TO SURVIVE
IN HAWAIʻI. TONIGHTS GUESTS INCLUDE A STATE LAWMAKER,
THE HEAD OF A BUSINESS GROUP AND ADVOCATES FOR HIGHER WAGES.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S SHOW. YOU CAN EMAIL, CALL OR TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAIʻI FACEBOOK
PAGE. NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.
NICOLE WOO IS A SENIOR POLICY ANALYST FOR THE HAWAIʻI APPLESEED CENTER WHICH PUSHES
TO CHANGE SYSTEMS THAT PERPETUATE INEQUALITY. SHERRY MENOR‑MCNAMARA IS THE PRESIDENT/CEO
OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF HAWAI’I WHICH CALLS ITSELF THE VOICE OF BUSINESS.
REPRESENTATIVE DELLA AU BELATTI IS THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY LEADER REPRESENTING DISTRICT
24, WHICH INCLUDES MAKIKI, PAPAKOLEA, MCCULLY, AND MANOA.
AND ISRAEL CALLO, A UTILITY WORKER AT THE DANIEL K. INOUYE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
LET ME START TO YOU. HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE ROUGHLY?
OVER THERE AT THE AIRPORT? .
LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN MINIMUM WAGE.>>Daryl: $13 AN HOUR, WOULD BE A RAISE FOR
YOU?>>$13, IT’S NOT ENOUGH FOR MINIMUM WAGE LIKE
ME, BECAUSE $13 IS NOT ENOUGH FOR LIVING HERE IN HAWAIʻI.
>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU GET BY?>>THAT’S WHY THE $13 IS NOT ENOUGH.
TO BUY ESPECIALLY IF YOU PAY FOR YOUR MEDICAL, THERE’S A LOT OF EXPENSES BECAUSE YOU ARE
SICK. THIRTEEN DOLLARS IS NOT ENOUGH.
>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU AFFORD TO LIVE? WHAT DO YOU DO?
YOU HAVE FAMILY WITH YOU?>>YES.
I HAVE FAMILY WITH ME. THE $13 IS, I NEED TO BUDGET SO IT WILL BE
ENOUGH. BUT I SAID, IT’S NOT ENOUGH.
THIRTEEN DOLLARS.>>Daryl: MAJORITY LEADER, DELLA AU BELATTI,
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THIS PROPOSAL NOW? IS IT COMPLETE DONE DEAL?
GOING TO BE THIS?>>TAKING UP HOUSE BILL 2541 FOR THIRD READING,
PASS IT OVER TO THE SENATE, I THINK THEY’LL ALSO HAVE A HEARING.
WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL MOVE THROUGH. BUT IT IS STILL PART OF, IN THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS.>>Daryl: YOU DO YOU ANSWER THOSE SAYING THAT,
THERE WAS A LOT OF TESTIMONY SAYING THAT $13 IS NOT ENOUGH.
EVEN SHOW, FOUR YEARS OUT FROM HERE.>>SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TOO THOSE FOLKS, ABOUT
THE $13 MINIMUM WAGE, IS THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT TO HELP WORKING
FAMILIES IN THE STATE OF HAWAIʻI. THAT BILL IN FACT ALSO INCLUDES THIS INCREASE
IN THE MINIMUM WAGE AND HUGE TAX RELIEF TO WORKING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS.
SO ALSO IN THE BILL, IS TAX CREDITS IN THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT IN THE FOOD EXCISE
TAX CREDIT. EQUATES TO OVER $75 MILLION ANNUALLY.
WE ARE MAKING EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT REFUNDABLE AND PERMANENT.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN A LONG TIME WHERE REAL MONEY IS BEING PUT BACK INTO
THE POCKETS OF WORKING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS. THAT’S ONE PIECE.
BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND WHY $13 ISN’T ENOUGH, I WOULD SAY TO FOLKS,
YES, $13 ISN’T ENOUGH. THE REAL LIVING WAGE IN THE STATE FOR A FAMILY
OF FOUR, THINK ABOUT IT, IS $34 AN HOUR. WHAT SMALL BUSINESSES IS GOING TO PAY $34
AN HOUR? WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT, WHAT IS
REALLY EXCITING, ABOUT THE THIS PACKAGE, NOT JUST ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE.
IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT TAX CREDITS. WE AS A MAJORITY HAVE TAKEN IT ON AS OUR COLLECTIVE
KULEANA, OUR RESPONSIBILITY, TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE COST DRIVERS.
SO IT’S INCOME, TAX BURDEN, IT’S ACCESS TO EARLY LEARNING, 21ST CENTURY SCHOOLS, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.>>Daryl: WE’LL GO INTO MOST OF THOSE THINGS
LATER ON. THIS DISCUSSION REALLY IS ABOUT THEN CONDITION
OF LOW INCOME FOLKS. NICOLE FROM APPLESEED, WHAT YOUR RESPONSE
TO THIS SORT OF GOLD BERG SET UP MULTIPLE DIFFERENT INPUTS TO HELP THE LOWER INCOME
PEOPLE?>>WE’RE REALLY PLEASED TO KNOW THAT’S CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE AGREES THAT THE MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD GO UP AND THAT THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ARE
LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT WAYS TO HELP WORKING FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY REALLY
DO NEED RELIEF. HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, HOMELESSNESS,
PEOPLE MOVING AWAY. WE’VE LOOKED AT THE INCOME TAX CREDIT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SO HAPPY ABOUT, MAKING IT REFUNDABLE.
THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW A LOT IN INCOME TAXES CAN GET A TAX REFUND BACK.
IF THEIR TAX CREDIT IS WORTH MORE. SINGLE MOM WITH ONE KID HERE IN HAWAIʻI,
MAKING MINIMUM WAGE, RIGHT NOW, THAT’S ONLY $21,000 A YEAR.
FOR FULL‑TIME WORKERS. SHE’LL GET BACK ABOUT $200 FROM THIS BILL.
THAT’S GREAT. WE KNOW A WOMAN LIKE THAT NEEDS THE $200.
IF YOU HAVE TWO PARENTS WORKING MINIMUM WAGE WITH TWO KIDS, THEY’RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING
FROM THE EITC PART OF THE BILL. THEY REALLY NEED TO GET A BOOST IN THEIR WAGES.
>>Daryl: GIVE SHERI OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. IS $13 AN HOUR GOING TO BE A HARDSHIP FOR
SOME BUSINESSES TOO?>>WE’RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THE CHAMBER NEED TO BE PART OF THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT IN ADDRESSING
THE COST OF LIVING ISSUE. THAT’S WHY WE SUPPORT THE PACKAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY.
WE TAKE THAT POSITION KNOWING THAT MANY OF OUR LOCAL AND SMALL BUSINESSES WILL BE IMPACTED.
BECAUSE THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE THEIR FAMILY AS WELL.
LOOK AT THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS, MANY FACTORS TIED IN THE MINIMUM WAGE.
FOR EXAMPLE, PAYROLL TAXES, TDI, WORK COMP, UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.
>>PREPAID HEALTH CARE, THEY’RE ALL FACTORS THAT IS TIED TO THE MINIMUM WAGE.
AND SO COLLECTIVELY, WE’RE LOOKING AT MUCH MORE INCREASE THAN SIMPLY JUST A DOLLAR INCREASE.
FOR EXAMPLE, PREPAID HEALTH CARE. ADDS ANOTHER THREE DOLLARS PER HOUR INTO THE
WAGES. AND SO WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, CAN THESE
SMALL AND LOCALLY OWNED COMPANIES REALLY AFFORD A DRASTIC JUMP IN MINIMUM WAGE.
EVEN UHERO STATED WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND TAKE A MORE GRADUAL INCREMENTAL APPROACH
TO IT. UHERO SAID IT.
>>Daryl: ECONOMIST FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAIʻI.
CORRECT. ULTIMATELY, BUSINESS WILL NEED TO INCREASE
THE COST OF GOODS AN SERVICES. IF THEY DO THAT, THEN YOU KNOW, INCREASE COST
OF GOODS OF SERVICE FOR THE CONSUMERS OR THEY MIGHT HAVE TO CUT BENEFITS.
REDUCE HOURS. SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE GETTING PREPAID HEALTH
CARE, WORKING 20 MORE HOURS, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE HEALTH CARE.
MAY HAVE TO CUT FRINGE BENEFITS. THAT’S THE REALTY OF THE SITUATION.
OTHER BUSINESSES PAY WELL ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE. SOME THAT SIMPLY CANNOT.
EVERY INCREASE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. IT’S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
LOOKED DIFFERENT PILL LAST WHAT IS DRIVING UP THE COST OF LIVING.
>>Daryl: WHEN YOU HEAR, WHAT THEY’RE SAYING, SAYING, A OKAY, ALONG WITH MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE
GOING TO GIVE YOU TAX BREAK. AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, IS THAT SOUND LIKE A LOT OF MONEY?
>>I DON’T THINK SO. I DON’T THINK SO.
TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS IS YOU CANNOT BUY NOTHING. TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS IS NOTHING.
>>Daryl: ON THAT POINT, WHEN IT COMES TO EXPECTING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FILL OUT TAX FORM, HOW
EFFECTIVE IS THAT OF TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING MONEY INTO PEOPLE’S POCKETS?
. EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT ACTUALLY EXISTS ON
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. PRETTY EFFECTIVE PROGRAM.
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS LIKE THIS. HELPED REDUCE POVERTY.
WAIT TILL TAX TIME. FILE A TAX RETURN.
WE AGREE WITH THE HEALTH LEADERSHIP. COMBINATION OF MINIMUM WAGE AND TAX CREDITS.
WE SUPPORT THE INTENT. IT’S JUST WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BOOST HIGHER
AND HALFWAY THROUGH THE SESSION.>>Daryl: IS THERE ROOM FOR HOPE?
>>I WANT TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION. $200 IS ON THE TABLE.
INACCURATE, LOOK AT THE TAX RELIEF ALL TOGETHER. FEDERAL EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, INDIVIDUAL
WORKER PLUS ONE CHILD CAN ACTUALLY GET OVER $3,500 BACK WITH THE FEDERAL EITC AND STATE
EITC. WE ALSO ARE ADDING FOOD EXCISE TAX CREDIT.
IN THAT FAMILY OF SINGLE MOTHER AND CHILD, THAT WOULD BE $150 EACH.
ACTUALLY GETTING $300. SO IT’S NOT SIMPLY $200.
ACTUALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT RANGES AND HOW HOUSEHOLDS, GETTING SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS
OF MONEY BACK IN TAX RELIEF. I ONE OF THE THINGS, THEY HAVE TON, LEGISLATURE
HAS DONE. ENCOURAGED INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY’RE
FILING THEIR TAXES SO THEY CAN DRAW DOWN ALL THE BENEFITS BECAUSE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF FEDERAL AND OF STATE TAX RELIEF PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGES.
PROGRAMS ARE NOT OUT THERE. WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT ONE OF THINGS WE’RE SEEING, SET UP
THAT KIND OF POLICY, YOU’RE ALSO, URGING PEOPLE TO SAFE.
$4,000 CHECK BACK BECAUSE OF COMBINED FEDERAL AND STATE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT.
GOOD. DO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD WITH THAT.
ALSO SAVE IT. WE ALSO WANT TO GET INDIVIDUALS INTO THE HABIT
OF SAVING. THIS APPROACH ADVOCATES HAVE SET UP ON BOARD
AND ASK THE US TO DO IN THE PAST. I THINK THAT’S SOMETHING THE THINGS WE’RE
ACCOMPLISHING.>>I WANT TO SAY THAT, NUMBERS THAT SHE’S
TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TAX CREDITS ARE THE TOTAL THAT FAMILIES CAN GET.
THAT’S NOT WHAT THE BILL DOES. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT BETWEEN THE
CURRENT EITC AND PEOPLE CAN GET. I’M INCLUDING FEDERAL.
BUT ALSO THE TAX PACKAGE INCLUDE IS NOT JUST THE EITC BUT THE FOOD EXCISE TAX CREDIT.
FOR FAMILIES, FOR FAMILY OF SAY, TWO WORKERS AND TWO CHILDREN, THAT’S GOING TO BE VALUE
OF $600? NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THEY ALREADY GET SOME. SO IT’S NOT THE FULL AMOUNT.
IT’S JUST A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CURRENT OR TOTAL.
>>Daryl: I WANT TO RESPECT OUR VIEWERS BECAUSE WE’VE ALREADY GOTTEN A NUMBER OF CALLS.
MOST OF THEM ARE CRITICAL OF $13 MINIMUM WAGE. WANTING MORE.
$13 IS NOT ENOUGH. GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS LEADERS ARE ACTING
LIKE THEY’RE DOING SOMETHING. POLITICAL THEATER.
EVERY STUDY DONE SHOWS POOR PEOPLE SPEND ALL FOR BASICS.
NO SAVINGS. HOW DOES THE LEGISLATURE THINK $13 AN HOUR
IS RIGHT BALANCE FOR SURVIVAL BETWEEN WORK, AND BUSINESS INTERESTS?
IT GOES, THERE’S A NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE THAT CHANCE TO ANSWER THIS POLITICAL THEATER QUESTION.
THERE WAS SOME CRITICISM CAN HE BEGINNING, SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE BEFORE
THE LEGISLATURE TO END UP WITH THE GOVERNOR, HOUSE AND SENATE AGREEING ON THIS PACKAGE.
WAS THE CHAMBER INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION PRIOR TO THE SESSION OVER THIS PACKAGE?
>>DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WERE INVOLVED. FOR US, WE’VE ALWAYS ADVOCATED MORE HOLISTIC
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IN PREVIOUS SESSIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE’RE NOT AFFECTING BUSINESSES
AS WELL. SO WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT WITH OUR INPUT.
SO IT’S SOMETHING NEW. IS WHEN WE SAW THE VERSION OF THE BILL COME
OUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT. FELT THAT, OKAY, MORE REASONABLE APPROACH.
AND AGAIN WE NEED TO BE PART OF THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE COST OF LIVING ISSUE.
>>Daryl: WAS APPLESEED, WERE YOU INVOLVED?>>THERE ARE WERE SOME MEETING WE WERE IN.
ADVOCATED FOR THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT AND MINIMUM WAGE.
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HELP WORKING FAMILIES.>>Daryl: THERE WAS SOME CRITICISM I THINK
FROM COMMON CAUSE AND SO ON ABOUT, SEEMS GREAT TO WALK INTO THE P BEGINNING OF LEGISLATURE
WITH A DEAL. OTHER ISSUES PART OF IT.
IT DOES REDUCE THE AMOUNT TIME PUBLIC CAN HAVE INPUT.
>>LET ME CLEAR THE AIR ON THIS. WE WORKED DURING THE INTERIM.
WE WORK ALL YEAR LONG. ALWAYS CONSTANTLY TALKING TO STAKE HOLD,.
WHAT I’M ESPECIALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROCESS WE EVEN GAINED IN, DELIBERATIVE EFFORT AND
LOTS OF GROUPS REACHED OUT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ACCESS TO EARLY LEARNING.
DELIBERATIVE EFFORT. TALKED ABOUT WAGE AND TAX CREDITS.
MY NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER WAS EXTREMELY BUSY AT THE CAPITOL.
PROUD OF THE FACT WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS. FACT THE DEAL IS DONE, LOOK AT THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS AND SEEN THAT THERE IS OPEN PROCESS. PEOPLE CAN WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND TESTIFY.
SO THERE STILL CONVERSATIONS GOING ON THE VERY OPEN IN MY OPINION.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWN. CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING GOING ON HERE.
COMMUNITY ITSELF IS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH AND WITHOUT LEGISLATORS.
THAT’S REALLY SUPERIMPORTANT. I THINK A LOT THIS IS ALSO MOTIVATED BY THE
CHANGE INITIATIVE. COMMUNITY LEADERS TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE
THINGS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO KEEP HAVING THIS LEVEL OF DIALOGUE.
AGAIN, I APPRECIATE COMMON CAUSE SAYING IT’S A DONE DEAL.
DOESN’T FEEL LIKE IT’S A DONE DEAL FROM MY PART, AMOUNT OF WORK THAT’S BEING DONE AT
THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW.>>Daryl: THROW OUT ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT? I THINK SHERI AND NICOLE BOTH CAN ANSWER THIS
QUESTION. WHEN YOU DO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE, WE HAVE IT
TONIGHT AFFECT ALL THE WORKERS. IT ONLY AFFECTS THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER $13
AN HOUR. WHAT THE IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE’S
WAGES? WAGE COMPRESSION. MOVE UP MINIMUM WAGE, IT NARROWS THE GAP BETWEEN
SKILLED WORKERS, ONES BEEN WITH THE COMPANY OR BUSINESS AND NARROWS THE GAP.
ONE, WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE MORALE OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY
VERSUS MAYBE ONE WHO JUST JOINED THE COMPANY? AT ENTRY LEVEL WAGE.
SO THIS WILL LIKELY OR SOMETIMES WILL FORCE BUSINESSES TO INCREASE AUDIT OTHER WAGES LET’S
SAY, 10% INCREASE IN ONE YEAR. THEN WE HAVE TO INCREASE 10% OF THE WAGES
ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT’S A LOT OF DOLLARS WE’RE TALKING ABOUT.
ONE THAT SIMPLY SMALL BUSINESSES WILL LIKELY HAVE A HARD TIME MANAGING.
HANDLING. AGAIN, IT’S TIED TO SO MANY OTHER TAXES AND
BENEFITS AND SO IT’S JUST NOT SIMPLY RAISING WAGE.
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT OTHER COST DRIVERS THERE ARE WHEN INCREASING MINIMUM WAGE.
>>Daryl: TO YOU AGREE THAT’S WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN?
YOU FOLKS HAVE HAD SOME DATA ON THAT?>>YES.
WORKERS MAKE A FEW DOLLARS ABOVE THE MINIMUM WAGE, LIKE WILL PROBABLY SEEN INCREASE.
PROBABLY BE LESS OF A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU GO FURTHER UP THE SCALE.
WAGES ARE NOT ZERO SUM GAME. ALL OF YOUR WORKERS ARE ALSO CUSTOMERS.
BUYS STUFF AT THE STORE. WANTS TO TAKE HIS FAMILY OUT FOR DINNER, MAYBE
FOR A BIRTHDAY OR SOMETHING. BUY CLOTHES FOR HIS NEW GRANDDAUGHTER, GRANDSON.
MINIMUM WAGE STUDIED ALMOST MORE THAN ANY OTHER TOPICS IN ECONOMICS IN THE LAST COUPLE
OF DECADES. IT SHOWS THAT THESE LOW WAGE WORKERS, SPEND
THEIR MONEY AS SOON AS THEY GET IT. GOES INTO THE ECONOMY.
MAKES IT TO THE CUSTOMERS CAN AFFORD TO BUY MORE STUFF AND LOCAL BUSINESSES.
ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICTS THAT A LOT OF LOW WAGE WORKERS, THOSE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO
FEEL POSITIVE EFFECTS BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE CAN FOR BUY THEIR STUFF.
>>Daryl: ARE YOU ABLE TO SAVE MONEY?>>NO.
I CANNOT EVEN SAVE NOTHING. BECAUSE IN MY FAMILY, MY TWO SONS LIVE WITH
ME. AND I HAVE ONE GRANDSON NOW.
I’M WORKING, TWO SONS, STILL NOT ENOUGH WAGE FOR THEMSELVES.
SINCE I CAME TO HAWAIʻI, I LIVE FOR MINIMUM WAGE UP TO TODAY.
SO IT’S VERY HARD FOR ME TO SURVIVE HERE IN HAWAIʻI.
BECAUSE THE COST OF LIVING HERE IN HAWAIʻI IS ONE OF, STATES THAT ONE OF THE MOST HIGH
EXPENSIVE HERE IN HAWAIʻI. SO $13 I THINK IT’S NOT ENOUGH.
>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE A BIG OCCASION?
LIKE IF THERE’S A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR SOMETHING THAT COSTS MONEY, HOW DO YOU DO IT?
>>I DON’T EVEN GO. I DON’T HAVE NOTHING TO DO.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO A PARTY OR YOU CANNOT GIVE SOMEBODY, HAVE A BIRTHDAY,
ASHAMED TO BUY CHEAP KIND. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE ONE YOU’RE GOING
TO GIVE. .
I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT THEY TOOK THE MONEY BACK INTO THE ECONOMY.
THAT MAY BE TRUE MEDIA TERMS. CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE MENTIONED THAT
LONGTERM, IT WILL CAUSE LONGTERM DETRIMENT TO THE ECONOMY AND BY 2025, THESE NEGATIVE
LONGTERM EFFECTS WILL CAUSE SLIGHTLY DECREASE IN FAMILY INCOME.
UHERO DESCRIBED IT AS REGRESSIVE. MINIMUM WAGE REGRESSIVE.
SO WHILE IMMEDIATE TERM, YES. IT WILL HAVE LONGTERM IMPACT AND AS THE COST
OF DOING BUSINESS, INCREASES, THEN SO WILL THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES INCREASE.
AND SO WHILE THEY MAY GET INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE, THEY’RE PAYING HIGHER.
>>Daryl: IS THERE A CONSIDERATION ON THE POINT OF ‑‑ BUSINESS.
CONSIDERATION TO GIVE TAX CREDIT TO EMPLOYER WHO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NEW MINIMUM WAGE.
PROPOSAL LAST YEAR, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE WERE HAVING BECAUSE WE WERE
STRUGGLING WITH HOW DO YOU SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE SMALLER BUSINESSES?
THAT CANNOT REALLY AFFORD, BECAUSE THEIR PROFIT MARGINS ARE SO THIN?
VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS. DIDN’T GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, IN OTHER PLACES, WHERE YOU HAVE THESE KINDS OF DIFFERENT, MIGHT
HAVE HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE, THEY’RE OFTEN LARGE CARVE OUTS FOR BUSINESSES AT THAT MAKE OVER
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. HERE IN THIS STATE, OUR MINIMUM WAGE IS APPLIED
TO EVERYBODY. ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO NOT, WHEN PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO CONCEDE ON CARVE OUT, LEFT WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
CHOOSE THE OTHER LEVERAGE THAT WE CAN PULL. WHICH ARE THE TAX CREDITS.
>>Daryl: LET ME ASK EXPLAIN WHAT A CARVE OUT. TALKING ABOUT IF SOMEONE HAS A TIP JOB.
>>OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THIS PERSON IS NOT GOING TO GET THE MINIMUM
WAGE, THIS GROUP IS NOT GOING TO GET IT, THAT SORT OF THING?
>>YES. I WOULD ALSO SAY, WE ALWAYS GET CRITICIZED,
WELL, THERE’S X NUMBER OF STATES THAT HAVE HIGHER MINIMUM WAGES THAN $13.
MANY OF THOSE HIGHER MINIMUM WAGES PROVIDE LARGE CARVE OUTS FOR BUSINESSES MAKING UNDER
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OR OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT. THAT WAY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DEMAND HIGHER MINIMUM
WAGE FROM A BIGGER BUSINESS THAT CAN AFFORD IT VERSUS SMALLER BUSINESS THAT CANNOT.
WE KNOW HERE IN STATE OF HAWAIʻI, SMALL BUSINESSES, MANAPUA, SHOPS, OR THE FLOWER NURSERY, ON
AN ISLAND, THAT’S REALLY DEVELOPING, REALLY JUST HAS MINIMUM WAGE WORKERS, THEY’RE PROFIT
MARGINS ARE SO THIN, CAN’T DO THIS. THEY’RE GOING TO RESORT TO CUTTING JOBS OR
CUTTING HOURS. SO THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE’RE BALANCING
IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. MOST OF OTHER STATES, CARVE OUTS DO PHASE
OUT AFTER A FEW YEARS. ECONOMIC RESEARCH, SHOWS THAT WAGES, NUMBER
OF JOBS DON’T DROP A SIGNIFICANT WAY. AND THEN HAWAIʻI, WE HAVE THE MINIMUM WAGE
GO UP 2015 TO 2018. UNEMPLOYMENT RATE DROPPED BY HALF.
NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS SERVER JOBS FOR EXAMPLE, WENT UP BY A THIRD.
SO YOU KNOW, EVEN THE LAST TIME THAT WE RAISED WAGE FROM $7.25 TO $10.10 OUR ECONOMY DID
REALLY WELL. AND THEN THESE OTHER STATES THERE ARE THE
NEXT MOST EXPENSIVE STATES IN THE COUNTRY, AFTER HAWAIʻI, THEY ALL RAISED THEIR WAGES.
IT’S GOING TO BE ABOVE $13 IN 2024. PASSED LAWS TO GO PAST 15.
AND THEY ALL HAVE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT WORTH MORE THAN THE ONE THAT’S PROPOSED IN
THIS BILL. SO WE’RE JUST PLAYING CATCH UP WITH THE OTHER
STATES.>>PART WHY.
NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY TO STAY HERE.>>ONE OF THEIR BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAWAIʻI
AND SOME OF THE STATES IS HAWAIʻI’S ONLY STATE WHERE WE HAVE PREPAID HEALTH CARE EMPLOYER
BASED HEALTH CARE. FOR ANY BUSINESS.
ANY BUSINESS THAT HAS ONE EMPLOYEE, OR 200 EMPLOYEES.
THAT HAS TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. FOR THEIR WORKERS.
THAT’S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I THINK THAT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ISRAEL IS HERE. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THAT PREPAID
HEALTH CARE ACT LABOR UNION RELY. WHY THEY NEED TO HAVE GOOD COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED
HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT OURSELF DIFFERENTS
IN HAWAIʻI THAN OTHER STATE. WE STRUCK A REAL BALANCE WITH BOTH THIS BILL
WE’RE PASSING AND AT SOME POINT, IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE EARLY LEARNING BILLS, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING BILLS PART OF THIS PACKAGE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT’S OUR COLLECTIVE KULEANA TO ADDRESS
ALL OF THE COST DRIVERS IN THE STATE OF HAWAIʻI. FOR ALL OF OUR ALICE FAMILIES, ONE OF TWO
FAMILIES IN THE STATE OF HAWAIʻI.>>ISLAND STATE.
OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO HAWAIʻI COMPARED TO OTHER STATES MENTIONED.
90% OF OUR GOODS GET SHIPPED IN. AGAIN, PREPAID HEALTH CARE, ANOTHER THREE
DOLLARS PER HOUR. TO THE WAGE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT, CAN’T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES OR, ORANGES TO ORANGES.
AND CONTIGUOUS STATES. SO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT GETTING PAID ENOUGH,
CAN ALWAYS MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE. WE DON’T HAVE THAT.
ISLAND STATE.>>Daryl: DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE LEAVING HAWAIʻI
BECAUSE OF THE LOW MINIMUM WAGE? HAVE YOU HAD FRIENDS LEFT HAWAIʻI?
>>OH, YEAH. LOCAL HERE IN HAWAIʻI.
THEY MOVE TO OTHER STATES BECAUSE THEY DON’T SURVIVE HERE IN HAWAIʻI.
BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LIVING.>>Daryl: LET ME EXPLORE NICOLE LITTLE BIT
MORE FROM APPLESEED. THIS CONCEPT OF THE PREPAID HEALTH CARE, PREPAID
HEALTH CARE ADDING THREE DOLLARS AN HOUR TO THE VALUE, DO YOU BUY THAT NUMBER?
IS IT REALLY THAT SIGNIFICANT A DIFFERENCE ESPECIALLY NOW THAT MOST OF US ARE PAYING
MORE FOR OUR HEALTH CARE INDIVIDUALLY THAN WE USED TO BE PAYING?
>>HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. I ACCEPT THAT NUMBER.
WE ALSO HEAR, WHEN WE TALK TO PEOPLE, BOSSES ARE KEEPING THEM AT 19 HOURS A WEEK.
SO THESE EMPLOYERS ARE NOT PAYING FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WE DO HAVE LOWER NUMBERS OF LOW WAGE WORKERS GETTING
HEALTH INSURANCE THAN HIGH WAGE WORKER. THEY’RE ALREADY DOING THAT.
AGAIN N THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH, WHETHER THEY LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN INCREASES HAPPEN
TO THE MINIMUM WAGE, NOT ONLY IS THERE ALMOST NO LOSS OF JOBS BUT DON’T SEE FRINGE BENEFITS
ARE TAKEN AWAY. SEEMS TO BE EMPLOYERS NEED TO COMPETE FOR
GOOD WORKERS. DON’T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER.
NEED TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER. SO IF THEY KNOW THEY’RE GOING TO CUT THEIR
HEALTH INSURANCE, THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR GOOD WORKERS.
WE WOULD HATE TO SEE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.
THE EVIDENCE IS SHOWING THAT THE MINIMUM WAGE IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE THAT.
, YOU KNOW, ECONOMY DONE WELL EVEN WITH THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
WE DON’T THINK CORRELATION EQUATES CAUSATION. MEANING THERE’S MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT COULD
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. TAKE THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY.
SURGE OF OPENING OF RESTAURANTS. THAT COULD HAVE INCREASED POSITION.
SO MANY OTHER FACTORS. KNOWING THAT, ECONOMY IS GOING TO TAKE A ECONOMIC
DOWN TURN. WHAT HAPPENS, WITH CORONAVIRUS, HOW IS THAT
GOING TO IMPACT ECONOMY IN THE NEAR FUTURE? BUSINESSES HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
BUSINESSES, THERE’S REASONS AS TO WHY BUSINESS HAVE TO REDUCE HOURS.
COST OF DOING BUSINESS HERE IS SO HIGH. SO IT’S NOT SIMPLY CUT HOURS BECAUSE THEY
DON’T WANT TO PAY PREPAID HEALTH CARE. BECAUSE HEALTHY WORKFORCE IS GOOD FOR EMPLOYER.
AND GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY.>>Daryl: IS THERE STUFF IN THE PACKAGE THAT
WOULD DECREASE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN HAWAIʻI?
>>WELL, I THINK WE’RE REALLY FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES AND WORKERS.
WE’RE LOOKING AT THE COST DRIVES FOR THOSE, FOR THAT SECTION.
SO IT’S REALLY FOCUSING ON ACCESS TO EARLY LEARNING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
NOW, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS COME FORWARD AND HELPED US BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IF WE
CAN HELP LOWER THOSE COSTS, THEY CAN ATTRACT WORKERS HERE.
RESPONSE TO QUESTION, IS IT JUST MINIMUM WAGE DRIVING WORK, AWAY?
NO. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PLACES WHERE THERE IS
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PROSPECTS FOR JOBS.
ONE THINGS WE’RE HEARING TEACHER SHORTAGE. HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE SHORTAGE.
WHAT ARE THOSE HIGH PAYING JOBS? LIVING WAGE JOBS?
THOSE ARE REAL LIVING WAGE JOBS. WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR?
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. EVEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS OUT OF THE REACH,
OF MIDDLE CLASS, PEOPLE, WE STRUGGLE. I’LL EXCITED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PACKAGE
IS LOOKING AT INCREASING A AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS A RANGE.
IT’S NOT JUST FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE RENTALS AND 80% UNDER AMI REALLY LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AGAIN FOR ONE AND TWO FAMILIES. IN THE STATE.
>>Daryl: SO ISRAEL, YOU HAVE A HOUSE? YOU OWN A HOUSE?
YOU RENT A HOUSE? HOW GET BY?
>>A HOUSE. IF I SAID, REALLY HARD TO PAY FOR THE MORTGAGE.
BECAUSE I HAVE A FAMILY LIVING WITH ME. AND THEY DON’T HAVE ENOUGH INCOME.
>>Daryl: DO THEY ALL HAVE TO PITCH IN FOR THE HOUSE?
>>SOMETIMES, NO.>>Daryl: IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS. SOMETIMES THEY DON’T HAVE ANY JOBS.
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE ONLY PART‑TIME. SOMETIMES THEY DON’T HAVE NOTHING.
>>Daryl: HOW MANY PEOPLE ALL TOGETHER LIVE IN THE HOUSE?
>>HAVE I TWO SONS. PLUS MY GRANDSON.
ME AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE ONE SISTER AND MY BROTHER‑IN‑LAW.
>>Daryl: THAT’S REALLY HOW YOU GET BY, WITH HOUSING, RIGHT?
OR ARE YOU PAYING FOR THE WHOLE THING?>>YES.
>>Daryl: REALLY?>>YES.
INTO NOT EVEN $13 AN HOUR?>>I SAID, $13, I DON’T KNOW HOW I CAN AFFORD.
>>Daryl: JUST GOES AWAY. RIGHT?
>>YES. TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT OTHERS?
ARE YOU IMPRESSED WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? ARE YOU SEEING HOPE, CORNER TURNING ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WITH WHAT IS ON THE TABLE?>>WE ARE SO PLEASED THAT THE LEGISLATURE
IS FOCUSING ON WORKING FAMILIES. I MEAN, I DON’T WANT TO SAY WE’RE AGAINST
THESE BILLS. WE SUPPORT THE INTENT OF THESE BILLS.
ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. HOUSING BILL HAS SEEN SOME PRETTY BIG CHANGES
IN THE SESSION ALREADY. DEFINITELY MOVING VERY GOOD DIRECTION.
HOPING FOR SIMILAR COMPROMISES AN AD DISCUSSION ON THIS BILL THAT HAS THE WAGES AND THE TAXES.
>>Daryl: PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING HAVE TO PASS FOR ALL OF THIS TO WORK?
>>IN MY VIEW, IF A REALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT TACKLING THE HIGH COST DRIVERS, IT’S NOT JUST
INCOME. AND TAX BURDENS.
IT IS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND EARLY LEARNING.
AND ACCESS TO EARLY LEARNING. FOR ME, YES, ALL OF THESE HAVE TO PASS.
IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL.>>Daryl: HOW DOES AFFORDABLE HOUSING PACKAGE
WORK? I KNOW THAT IN THE SENATE, THEY ACTUALLY BOOST
IT UP OR THEY CHANGE THE BILL. IS THAT ONE OF AREAS WHERE YOU’RE A LITTLE
BIT LESS CONFIDENT ABOUT WORKING THINGS OUT?>>SO I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT’S IN THE CONTENTS
OF THE BILL AT THE MOMENT. STILL SOME CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE SENATE WILL PASS OVER.
>>Daryl: PLAIN ENGLISH, EXPLANATION WHAT THE AGREED TO BILL WAS.
>>WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AROUND
KIND OF THE TRANSIT TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS THAT IS ACTUALLY A HUGE PIECE OF IT.
WE ALSO WERE LAGOON AT LEASEHOLD MODEL. STATE LAND WOULD BE LEASED IN THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING MARKET. WE ARE LOOKING AT.
TWO BIG PILLARS. SOME REGULATORY RELIEF AS WELL.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF STILL IN CONVERSATION AND WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD THE SENATE BILL
COMING OVER.>>Daryl: SHERI, WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK?
HAVE YOU BEEN LOOKING AT ALL AT THE HOUSING COMPONENT?
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT’S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SUPPORT TOO?
>>WE’RE LOOKING AT ALL THE COMPONENTS. HOW WE SUPPORT OVERALL THE COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE.
AGAIN, REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED, ADDRESSES ALL THE PILLARS OF THE COST OF LIVING IN HAWAIʻI.
AND THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO, AGAIN, BE PART OF THAT COLLECTIVE EFFORT.
SUPPORT MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE. AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILLS AN EARLY
LEARNING.>>Daryl: FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW, PROPOSALS
MADE FOR HOUSING, TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, IT MEANS GETTING THE WATER AND THE SEWER AND
THE ROADS AND SO ON THERE, SO THAT IT CAN MAKE IT LESS EXPENSIVE FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD
THERE. LEASEHOLD TAKES LAND COST OUT.
DO THEY MAKE SENSE? DO YOU THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY INVESTMENT INTO
THAT SECTOR?>>CROSS ROADS IN OUR STATE.
WE NEED TO SEEK SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ARE NEW. AND THAT’S WHY WE APPRECIATE THAT THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE ADMINISTRATION CAME TOGETHER AND ENDORSED THESE BILLS.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. WE NEED TO FIND SOLUTIONS TOGETHER.
BECAUSE WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER. WE WANT OUR COMMUNITIES TO THRIVE.
SO THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORT ALL OF THE BILLS. NOT TAKING IT ONE ISSUE AT A TIME.
TAKING IT AS A WHOLE.>>Daryl: YOU HEAR THIS TALK, BUSINESS, LEGISLATURE,
AND SUPPORTERS OF EQUALITY, ALL AGREE, DOES THAT GIVE YOU SOME HOPE, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE
THEY’RE JUST ‑‑ I MEAN, JUST AS A PERSON. DOS THIS MAKE YOU ENCOURAGE YOU?
>>IN MY OWN OPINION, AND IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, SINCE CAME TO HAWAIʻI, I WORKED THREE JOBS.
BECAUSE I HAVE SMALL BABIES BEFORE. THREE KIDS BEFORE TO SUPPORT.
I NEED TO WORK THREE JOBS. AND TODAY, I SUPPOSED TO WORK 2 JOBS.
BUT I’M OLDER WILL. I CANNOT WORK ANY MORE.
LONGER. I’M TIRED ALREADY.
BECAUSE SENSE CAME TO HIRE, 32 YEARS LIVE IN HAWAIʻI. ALWAYS WORKING HARD.
AND MINIMUM WAGE A ALWAYS GET. THAT’S WHY THE HEALTH CARE, IS ANOTHER BURDEN
FOR ME. BECAUSE AS OF NOW, RECEIVING IS IF I GO TO
THE DOCTOR, THEN MY PAYCHECK IS NOTHING LEFT. SO JUST LIKE I LIVE IN WITH PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
>>Daryl: YOU HAVE TO PAY A LOT WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR?
>>OF COURSE. YEAH.
YES, SIR. YOU NEED TO PAY FOR YOUR MEDICINE.
YOU PAY FOR YOUR DOCTOR. YOU PAY FOR YOUR LABORATORY.
AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU’RE GOING TO PAY.
>>Daryl: ON THE ISSUE OF EARLY LEARNING THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, HOW MUCH OF A DENT
DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT WILL PUT OF A LOT OF FAMILIES NEEDS?
>>WE HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PREPAID COST COUNTRY.
I’M NOT ON EXPERT ON THIS. MORE THAN THE COST OF U.H. TUITION.
TO HAVE THE KIDS AND CHILD CARE. FOR THE FAMILIES THAT DON’T CURRENTLY HAVE
PRE‑K. WILL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THEM.
ONE SLICE OF THE PIE TOTALLY AGREE. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
DONE. WE’RE GLAD THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR
AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER.
BUT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE BILLS AS GOOD AS THEY CAN BE. READING THESE
CALLS COMING IN. I DON’T I THINK IS ORCHESTRATED.
GENUINE. A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THIS PACKAGE.
IT’S LIKE THIS PACKAGE FAILS WORKING FAMILY. STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
WILL CONTINUE UNTIL WE MOVE AWAY. IF YOU COULD ONLY STAY OPEN ON THE BACKS OF
YOUR WORKERS DON’T DESERVE TO BE IN THE BUSINESS. GETTING MORE MONEY BACK ON YOUR TAXES THROUGH
CREDIT SOUNDS GREAT. DON’T YOU HAVE TO DECLARE YOUR REFUND NEXT
YEAR. PAY TAXES?
WHY DON’T WE LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE VOTING FROM THE MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE.
I’M SENSE BEING A LOT OF CYNICISM. DO YOU GET SENSE OF THAT YOURSELF OUT THERE.
>>I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CYNICISM. IT IS HARD TO LIVE HERE OF THE STATE HAWAIʻI.
MY DAUGHTER GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOL. WE SEE THE FAMILIES STRUGGLING.
MY OWN FAMILY SAVES FOR OVER A DECADE TO STILL AFFORD A LITTLE AIR CUBE IN THE SKY IN MAKIKI.
I UNDERSTAND. AND I FEEL VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
I THINK THAT’S WHY WE ARE REALLY TRYING HARD. IT WAS A WAKEUP CALL FOR ME.
ONE DAUGHTER BEFORE OPENING SESSION, 9TH GRADER, MY DAUGHTER SAID, MY FRIENDS AND ME ARE NOT
COMING BACK. WE ALL FEEL THE PAIN.
>>Mahealani: WANT TO WORK THROUGH THE CYNICISM. WORK THROUGH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THESE HUGE
PROBLEMS AND WE CAN ONLY DO IT TOGETHER. I MEAN, I THINK IF PEOPLE KEEP BEGET UP ON
EACH OTHER, THAT’S NOT GOING TO BE AN EFFECTIVE WAY THAT WE FIGURE OUT THE SOLUTION.
>>Daryl: WHEN YOU SAY NOT COMING BACK, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
>>MY DAUGHTER SAYING THAT I’M GOING TO GO AWAY TO COLLEGE AND NOT GOING TO COME BACK.
WE ALL FACE THAT. IN OUR FAMILIES.
SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. I REFUSE TO CONTINUE TO BE CYNICAL.
WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING. AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO JUDGE US, AT THE END
OF SESSION, AND WANT TO JUDGE US IN A YEAR, TO SEE WHEN WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF SOME OF
THESE THINGS, SO BE IT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING AT IT.
>>Daryl: INTERESTING. YOU’RE AN ATTORNEY.
ALONG WITH BEING LEGISLATOR. MY FAMILY CERTAINLY MIDDLE CLASS.
VERY LEAST. I HEAR THE SAME THING FROM MY KIDS.
WHAT IN ALL, WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, IS GOING TO HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES.
TALKING A LOT ABOUT FAMILIES THAT ARE MINIMUM WAGE, BUT WHAT ABOUT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES
AS WELL? DOES IS THERE A TRICKLE UP EFFECT?
>>THE PRE‑K DEFINITELY HELPS FAMILIES AT THE INCOME SCALE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. GOING PRETTY HIGH UP THE INCOME SCALE.
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT ACTUALLY IS A PRETTY COMPLICATED TAX.
THAT’S BECAUSE IT GOES PRETTY HIGH UP AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE MIDDLE CLASS.
BECOMES SMALLER TAX CREDIT. BUT IT ACTUALLY DOES MOVE UP KIND OF THROUGH
WORKING CLASS FAMILIES UP TOWARDS THE MIDDLE CLASS.
SO ALL OF THESE POLICIES CAN BE ADJUSTED IN THE WAY THAT KIND OF GIVES HELP WHERE IT’S
NEEDED AND TARGET IT WHERE IT’S NEEDED.>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE THING THAT
WOULD BE BEST, THE MOST EFFECT ON MIDDLE INCOME PEOPLE?
PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS BRAIN DRAIN AND THEY’RE ABLE TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE,
BUT THE KIDS ARE SAYING I’M NOT COMING BACK?>>THAT’S WHY IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE INVEST
IN OUR EDUCATIONAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE. AND THE CHAMBER IS DEFINITELY INVESTED IN
THIS AREA.>>Daryl: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>>PREPARING OUR FUTURE WORKFORCE FOR THE JOBS OF TOMORROW.
WE NEED TO REALLY START LOOK CREATING THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CREATE A QUALITY JOB HIGH PAYING KEEP OUR KEIKI HERE AT HOME.
SO WE’VE BEEN WORKING WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS. UNIVERSITY, HIGH SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS GOVERNMENT
TO WORK ON THAT TALENT PIPELINE. LOOK AT LONGTERM.
START THINKING LONGTERM IN THE FUTURE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP, AGAIN, OUR KEIKI HERE.
IN HAWAIʻI. YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL FORCE DEVELOPMENT.
AREA THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE INVESTED IN.>>CAN I MAKE THAT A CONCRETE EXAMPLE?
THERE’S A PARTNERSHIP RIGHT NOW BETWEEN HAWAIʻI PACIFIC HEALTH AND WAIPAHU HIGH SCHOOL.
WITH THE HELP OF CHAMBER. TO HELP PLACE STUDENTS IN MEDICAL ASSISTED
PROGRAMS. SO SENIOR COMING OUT OF WAIPAHU HIGH SCHOOL
WITH A CERTIFICATION AS A MEDICAL ASSISTANT WILL BE MAKING $21 AN HOUR.
S A SENIOR OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. THAT SENIOR MAY BE WILL TAKE THIS MEDICAL
ASSISTANT JOB, WILL GO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WILL GET HELP FROM THE EARLY COLLEGE PROMISE
PROGRAM. WILL THEN GET HELP IN ASSISTANCE FROM STAFF
BENEFITS. IF THEY’RE LOW INCOME MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY’LL BE ABLE TO GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB. MAYBE THEY’LL BE ATTRACTED TO THERAPY OR NURSING
PROGRAM. THOSE JOBS MAKE FIFTY DOLLARS AN HOUR.
THOSE ARE THE LIVING WAGE JOBS WE NEED TO BE MOVING PEOPLE INTO.
THAT COMES OUT OF A PARTNERSHIP. BETWEEN THE CHAMBER, BETWEEN OUR MEDICAL COMMUNITY,
AND BETWEEN OUR UNIVERSITY AND HIGH SCHOOLS. REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON LIVING WAGE JOBS AND
NOT JUST ON MINIMUM WAGE. FOCUS ON ALL OF THESE THINGS.
THAT WORKER IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO EARLY LEARNING. AFFORDABLE EARLY LEARNING AND HOUSING, MORE
LIKELY TO STAY HERE. ADDRESS FOUR WORKFORCE SHORTAGE.
ALL OF THESE THINGS, GOING TO TAKE US COMMITTING OVER TIME TO DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS.
>>I CERTAINLY AGREE. APPLAUD THE CHAMBER FOR SUPPORTING THESE INITIATIVES.
WORKERS LIKE ISRAEL HOW THE AIRPORT FUNCTIONS. WE NEED PEOPLE WORK DOING UTILITY WORK.
WE NEED BAGGAGE HANDLERS. WE NEED OFFICE CLEANERS AND THEY DESERVE TO
BE PAID A WAGE THAT’S LIVABLE WAGE AS WELL. CAN HE CAN’T FUNCTION WITHOUT THE WORKERS
WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE HIGH EDUCATION AS REST OF US.
>>Daryl: YOU WORK FOR UNION JOB.>>YOU’VE NEGOTIATED THESE THINGS.
IT’S STILL LESS THAN 16, $17 AN HOUR. WHAT DOES THAT ‑‑ COST OF THE AIRPORT.
>>SPEAK FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES. BECAUSE WE ARE 80% SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE HEAR, WELL, IF BUSINESS CAN’T AFFORD TO PAY CERTAIN WAGE, THEY SHOULDN’T BE IN BUSINESS.
AGAIN MANY BUSINESSES PAY WAY ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE.
IF WE DO THAT, WE STAY THAT BUSINESSES CANNOT, CAN’T AFFORD, WHY DON’T THEY NOT EXIST?
DO WE REALLY WANT TO CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF OUR SMALL AND LOCAL BUSINESSES, MANAPUA
SHOPS, DRIVE‑INS, LOCAL MADE IN HAWAIʻI STORES, REALLY ASK OURSELVES DO WE WANT TO
HAVE MORE MAINLAND COMPANIES COMING IN OR, AND TAKING OVER THE LANDSCAPE?
OR KEEPING THE FAMILIES OWNED BUSINESSES HERE IN HAWAIʻI.
?>>Daryl: WE ALSO COMES ALONG THOSE LINES.
FROM A VIEWER. MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE INCREASED SMALL BUSINESSES
UNITED TO BE TAXED LESS. AND BIG BUSINESSES NEED TO BE TAXED MORE.
WAS THERE OTHER THAN THE TAX RELIEF, HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION FOR, SAY, TAKING EXCISE
TAX OFF OF CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF BUSINESS, LIKE DRUGS, LIKE DOCTOR VISITS, LIKE FOOD?
>>THERE ARE ALWAYS THOSE PROPOSALS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
WE’RE EVEN PROBABLY CONSIDERING SOME OF THEM NOW.
REALLY DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT IS WHEN YOU START TO CARVE OUT THINGS FROM THE GENERAL EXCISE
TAX, EVERYONE WANTS THEIR THING CARVED OUT. WHAT’S REALLY POWERFUL ABOUT THE GENERAL EXCISE
TAX, IT’S A BROAD BASED TAX. WE CAN PROVIDE RELIEF TO WORKERS IN A TARGETED
WAY, THROUGH EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT. THOSE KIND OF PROPOSALS ARE DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT.
IN TERMS OF FOOD, EXCISE TAX ON FOOD, MUCH OF THAT IS EXPORTED TO TOURISTS.
REALLY DIFFICULT TAX TO TAMPER WITH.>>Daryl: DID YOU FOLKS, WERE YOU DISAPPOINTED
AT ALL WE’RE NOT SEEING SIGNIFICANT TAX RELIEF FROM BUSINESS FOR THIS SESSION?
>>AGAIN, JUST WENT UP COST OF LIVING. TAKING INCREMENTAL APPROACH TO THE MINIMUM
WAGE, RATHER THAN BIG JUMP, DEFINITELY WILL HELP BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY SMALL ONES.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION.
WHAT ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT BUSINESSES CAN COMPETE TO KEEP THEIR
DOORS OPEN AND SO WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY MORE DISCUSSIONS, MORE COLLECTIVE DISCUSSIONS,
IN BRINGING DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER. TO FIND SOLUTIONS TOGETHER.
BECAUSE THAT’S WHEN WE NEED.>>Daryl: ‑‑ FASCINATING QUESTION FROM
A VIEWER. HOW MANY PEOPLE PANEL WOULD BE AFFORD LIVING
ON $21,000 A YEAR OR EVEN $30,000 A YEAR? I KNOW ONE.
>>THAT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE 7 OR 8 PEOPLE HERE IN THE HOUSE.
WHAT GOES THROUGH YOUR MIND IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU START WITH YOU, WORK ACROSS THE TABLE.
TOLD YOU, $30,000. THAT’S IT.
>>30,000 IS $15 AN HOUR. FOR FULL‑TIME WORK.
NO. I WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
I WOULD SURVIVE I WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF MY APARTMENT AND COMPLETELY CHANGE EVERYTHING
ABOUT MY LIFESTYLE. I WOULD SUFFER.
I REALLY DON’T ‑‑ I DON’T EVEN HAVE CHILDREN. I CAN’T IMAGINE HOW SINGLE PARENTS ARE MAKING
IT IN THIS STATE. AT THE MINIMUM WAGE OR EVEN AT $15 AN HOUR.
. LEGISLATORS MAKE HOW MUCH?
A YEAR? 50 SOMETHING.
>>50,000.>>FOR WORKING, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU WORK PRACTICALLY
FULL‑TIME AT BOTH OF YOUR JOBS. GIVE YOU CREDIT.
WHEN LEGISLATORS ARE MAKING $50,000 FOR FOUR OR FIVE MONTH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
HOW CAN THEY RELATE TO THIS KIND OF NUMBER?>>I RELATE TO THAT QUESTION WHEN I LOOK BACK
ON MY LIFE AND WHEN I LOOK BACK AS WHEN I STARTED OFF, OUT OF COLLEGE AS A YOUNG TEACHER.
I WAS MAKING $30,000 OR LESS SALARY. AND I LIVED IN A ONE STUDIO APARTMENT.
I STRUGGLED TO GET BY. AND FIGURED OUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
RELIED UPON FAMILY. AND I THINK THAT EXPERIENCE REALLY COLORS
WHAT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING. WHEN I LOOK AT THE BREAKS, IF I COULD MAKE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING MORE REACHABLE FOR INDIVIDUALS, LIKE THAT YOUNG TEACHER, FOR ME, 20 YEARS
AGO, THAT’S WHAT I’M WORKING TOWARDS.>>WE ALSO KNOW THAT TEACHERS IN THE STATE
ARE NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY. I MEAN, THEY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COMPARISONS, THEY’RE NOT MAKING IT ANYTHING CLOSE TO OTHER
TEACHERS WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR COST OF LIVING. SO FOR THE BILL HAS TWO PARTS.
REMEMBER, PRICES AND THE WAGES. GOT TO GET THEM IN BALANCE.
FOR THIS SHOW, WE’RE FOCUSING ON THE WAGES SIDE, RIGHT?
>>Daryl: SURE. TO BE FAIR, THROW EVERYBODY OUT THAT QUESTION.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LIVING OFF $30,000 A YEAR, WHAT GOES THROUGH YOUR MIND?
>>SIMILAR RESPONSES. AGAIN, THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT
OPPORTUNITIES AND SOLUTIONS. INCLUDING TRAINING.
AMERICAN JOBS CENTER IN HAWAIʻI. THEY OFFER TRAINING SERVICES.
SO THERE’S DIFFERENT WAYS OF RETOOLING OR GAINING MORE SKILLS SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK FOR
THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT IT IS CHALLENGING
TO LIVE IN HAWAIʻI. THE COST OF LIVING IS HIGH.
SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION TO FIND DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.
CREATIVE WAYS.>>Daryl: YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, THERE WAS
SORT OF MOVEMENT OR DISCUSSION ABOUT $17 MINIMUM WAGE.
AND THIS CALLER WRITES, STATE RESEARCH CONFIRM BENEFITS OF GENERAL LIVING WAGE, WHY THEY
IGNORING DATA AND STICKING MISINFORMATION. BY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
BUY AS ORGANIZATION. RESPOND TO THIS CALLER QUESTIONS ABOUT FEAR
OR POWER OF BUSINESS MAKING SO YOU DON’T DO THE RIGHT THING?
THAT’S THE CALLER’S SAYING THIS.>>I WANT TO ADDRESS FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION.
DBEDT AS A STATE AGENCY TELLS US THAT $17 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.
I WILL SAY THAT IN THE TESTIMONY THAT WE RECEIVED ON THIS BILL, DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES
WORKED WITH LOW INCOME FAMILIES TOLD US BE CAUTIOUS.
SO ONE OF THE SCENARIOS WE RAN, LOOK AT, WHEN WE INCREASE WAGES TO 15, $17 AN HOUR, SO REASON
WHY THEY SAY BE CAUTIOUS IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE LOW INCOME EARNERS ARE ALSO DEPENDENT
UPON THINGS LIKE SNAP BENEFITS, TANF, ACCESS TO PUBLIC HOUSING, AND SO ALL OF THE OTHER
BENEFITS, YOU START TO ACTUALLY HIT A THRESHOLD WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO FALL OFF THOSE BENEFITS.
WE KNOW THAT THAT LEVEL, AT THAT CLASS, WHAT WE’RE DOING IS WE HAVE MINIMUM WAGE, WE HAVE
TAX RELIEF, AND WE HAVE STATE SUPPORT. THAT CAN HELP THOSE KINDS OF FAMILIES.
TO GIVE THEM THE STEP UP THAT THEY MAY NEED. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE’RE SENSITIVE
ABOUT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
THAT’S JUST ONE AGENCY SAYING WE SHOULD DO. OTHER AGENCIES TELLING US, IF YOU DO THIS,
YOU’RE GOING TO EFFECT THIS TAX BRACKET. IF YOU DO THIS, YOU’RE GOING TO HURT THIS.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOU MAY NOT GET AS MUCH MONEY. IF YOU DO THIS, THIS CLASS IS NOT GOING TO
NECESSARILY GET AS MUCH OF A TAX RELIEF. WE’RE MEASURING LOTS AND LOTS OF THINGS AND
TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF DIFFERENT TESTIMONY FROM THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
>>Daryl: RUBRIC’S CUBE.>>IT IS.
DBEDT DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM.
LEGISLATURE REQUIRES THEM TO MAKE A REPORT EVERY 2 YEARS WHAT A SELF‑SUFFICIENCY INCOME
IS. JUST TO MAKE THE BASIC NEEDS. THAT NUMBER
OF $17 AN HOUR IS FOR SINGLE PERSON WITH NO CHILDREN AND ALREADY GETTING HEALTH CARE FROM
THEIR EMPLOYER. IT SAYS IN THEIR REPORT BASIC NEED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE COULD BE A LOSS OF BENEFITS.
ABOUT YOU WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SEVEN DOLLARS TOMORROW.
MOST OF THE ADVOCACY SAY 17, ARE TALKING ABOUT $17, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
SO AGAIN, WE’RE NOT TRYING TO SHOCK THE BUSINESSES AND PUT THEM ALL OUT.
WE ARE THINKING ABOUT MANAGEABLE STEPS. PREDICTABLE STEPS.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID IN 2015 TO 2018. I UNDERSTAND YOU’RE SAYING THAT WE CAN’T PROVE
THAT ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE ECONOMY WERE BECAUSE OF THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
THAT’S NOT WHAT WE’RE SAYING. WE’RE SAYING THAT NONE OF THE BAD THINGS THAT
WERE PREDICTED BEFORE THE LAST MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
>>Daryl: A COUPLE OF GRAPHICS. AT LEAST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF A $17 MINIMUM WAGE. WHOSE AFFECTED BY THIS IMPACT.
FIGURES FROM THE APPLE SEED ORGANIZATION. FIRST OF ALL, AGES, LIKE THERE’S ALWAYS TALK
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE EARNING THE LOW WAGES ARE GENERALLY YOUNGER PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU SAY, OKAY, HERE’S ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING LESS
THAN $17 AN HOUR. IN OUR ECONOMY.
RIGHT? SO 21% OF PEOPLE UNDER 16 TO 24.
35%. I FIND IT JUST ALMOST INCOMPREHENSIBLE THAT
35% OF PEOPLE BETWEEN 25 AND 39 ARE MAKING LESS THAN $17 AN HOUR.
IS THAT WHAT THAT NUMBER MOONS?>>BELIEVE IT’S FROM THAT REPORT.
LOOKS AT THE EFFECTS ON OUR POPULATION IF THE WAGE WENT UP TO $17 BY 2025.
IT’S NOT CURRENT WAGES. PREDICTION OF FUTURE WAGES.
HOW MANY PEOPLE, WHAT PERCENT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE AFFECTED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
>>Daryl: IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS A NUMBER THAT CAN GIVE US AN IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE
MAKE LESS THAN $17 AN HOUR?>>YEAH.
PRETTY MUCH. THAT’S A LOT.
CONSIDERING THE WAGE THAT FAMILY WOULD NEED TO AFFORD ONE BEDROOM RENTAL IS LIKE $27.
>>YES. SEVENTEEN DOLLARS AN HOUR.
IS ABOUT $35,000 A YEAR. WHICH I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD START TO THINK
ABOUT WHERE YOU GET FOR A SINGLE PERSON TO MAKE BASIC NEED.
>>COMMON SENSE KNOWING HOW MUCH IT COST DO LIVE HERE.
>>Daryl: HOW WOULD IT FEEL FOR YOU IF YOU MADE $35,000 A YEAR?
>>BETTER.>>Daryl: WHEN YOU HAD WORKED 2 OR 3 JOBS.
DID YOU ALSO GET ANY KIND OF BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT?
DID YOU GET FOOD STAMPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?>>INCOME THAT I RECEIVED WHEN I WORKED 2
JOBS, I AM NOT QUALIFY FOR THE HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
EVEN MY KIDS, I SEND THEM TO PUBLIC SCHOOL. BUT THEY’RE GOING TO LOOK AT YOUR INCOME,
HOW MUCH YOU MAKE TO BE QUALIFIED. SO THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT’S NOT QUALIFIED
FOR THE HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT. UNLESS YOU’RE NOT WORKING AT ALL.
WILL BE QUALIFIED.>>Daryl: INTERESTING CALLER.
MY DAUGHTER AND SON‑IN‑LAW AND TWO YOUNG KIDS RETURNED HOME FROM THE MAINLAND IN LATE
2015. MID 2018, DECIDED TO GO BACK TO THE MAINLAND.
COULDN’T WORKING 80, 60 HOURS A WEEK. I WAS WATCHING THEIR KIDS.
COULDN’T MAKE IT FINANCIALLY. THEY WERE BOTH DOCTORS.
STILL, THIS OVERALL FEELING.>>EVEN WITH ALL OF THIS.
>>I THINK THAT’S A VERY STRONG IMPRESSION. DO YOU FOLKS HAVE HOPE?
DO YOU HAVE HOPE?>>YEAH.
I MEAN WE’RE SO PLEASED THAT’S LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR ARE FOCUSING ON WORKING FAMILIES
THIS SESSION. WONDERFUL THING.
FOR US TO BE THINKING ABOUT. TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
I HAVE HOPE LOOK AT THE OTHER STATES. LEADING THE WAY.
ONES THAT ARE ALSO HIGH COST RAISING THE WAGE. SEATTLE, SAN FRANCISCO, NEW YORK CITY, ALREADY
AT $15 ON HOUR. DC IS GOING TO FOLLOW THEM THIS YEAR.
THEY’VE BEEN AT 15 COUPLE OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
RESTAURANT INDUSTRIES ARE FINE. JOBS ARE FINE.
DOING OKAY. WE CAN LOOK AT THEM AND HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT
WE CAN GO THERE WITH THEM. WE CAN FOLLOW A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS
THAT WE CAN MAKE IT. IF WE DO THAT.
THEN WORKERS LIKE ISRAEL WILL BE ABLE TO MAYBE NOT WORK THREE JOBS,.
>>Daryl: ARE A LOT PEOPLE WORKING THOSE MULTIPLE JOBS IN THE COMPANIES YOU REPRESENT?
>>I’M SURE. AGAIN, SPEAKING FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES,
AT THE OPERATE AN A VERY SLIM PROFIT. SO EVERY CENT HAS AN IMPACT.
WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, EMPLOYEES ARE FAMILIES. THIS IS THE CULTURE HERE.
WE TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE MANY OF THEM ARE VERY FLEXIBLE.
GIVING VACATION OR HAVE TO TAKE SOME LEAVE, GRANT LEAVE.
DON’T THINK WE CAN LABEL ALL BUSINESSES AS WE’RE JUST CUTTING HOURS JUST BECAUSE WE DON’T
WANT TO PAY FOR IT. THAT’S NOT TRUE AT ALL.
OUR SMALL BUSINESS TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE THAT JUST PROMOTES HEALTHIER ECONOMY
AND HEALTHIER HAWAIʻI.>>Daryl: ONLY HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT.
HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THIS PACKAGE IS GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER AND YOU’LL BE ABLE TO LOOK
AT THE PUBLIC IN JUNE OR JULY AND SAY, WE DID IT?
>>I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN MY COLLEAGUES. THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING SO RIGHT FOR
THE WORKERS AND THE WORKING FAMILIES IN THE STATE.
SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT COMPROMISES AND WE’RE GOING TO REACH
THE END GOAL.>>Daryl: LAST WORD.
GETTING CONFIDENT YET?>>I DON’T HAVE THE IDEA.
>>Daryl: IT’S NOT GIVING AWE YOU A LOT. WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>>YEAH.>>Daryl: WATCH AND SEE.
WE ALL WILL BE. MAHALO TO ALL OF YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS – NICOLE WOO, SENIOR POLICY ANALYST FOR THE
APPLESEED CENTER FOR LAW AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE. REPRESENTATIVE DELLA AU BELATTI, HOUSE DEMOCRATIC
MAJORITY LEADER SHERRY MENOR‑MCNAMARA, PRESIDENT/CEO OF
THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF HAWAI’I, AND. ISRAEL CALLO, A UTILITY WORKER AT HONOLULU
AIRPORT. NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, MANDATORY VACCINATIONS
FOR HAWAIʻI SCHOOL STUDENTS. THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. PLEASE JOIN US THEN.
I’M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI, ALOHA!

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