Complete Creation part 3 3rd ed 2020 YouTube version

Complete Creation part 3 3rd ed  2020 YouTube version

[Music] Hello again, and welcome back!
In the previous lecture we were looking at the
surprising foundations and history of the
creation/evolution debate, and in particular, Sir
Charles Lyell’s highly influential book
“Principles of Geology.” As I previously mentioned, Lyell
spent himself traveling the world, looking for
evidence to back up his new history, one of those
places visited was Niagara Falls, in 1841. If you
ever get to visit the Niagara Falls (and I highly
recommend it!) you can notice several, significant
things. Take the journey behind the falls which
are tunnels at the bottom of the falls and in
behind. Besides spectacular scenery, when you
are at the base of the falls, look in behind the
falling water. Notice there is a bit of a cave forming
behind the falls. There’s a couple of different
kinds of rock involved here. There is a
limestone layer at the top and shale at the bottom.
Limestone is a fairly tough rock, it is actually the
rock from which we get concrete. So think of it
like concrete. The shale is a very fine-grained
sediment which has basically been compacted
together into a rock. It’s quite weak. In fact you can
often pull it apart with your bare hands. What is happening at the falls
is that the tougher layer of limestone forms the
ledge over which the water flows. As the water hits
the bottom, the force of the water and spray
erode s away the very soft layers of shale underneath
the limestone, making the cavern. Eventually a
large enough cavern forms underneath the limestone
that the limestone can no longer support itself and
the roof of the cavern collapses.
As the falls continually move backwards,
upstream towards Lake Erie, the Niagara Gorge is left
behind. The falls and gorge started here at the
Niagara Escarpment. So when Lyell visited the falls,
ye olde gears in his head must have been turning!
Here was a perfect clock he could call upon – a
modern day, observable, repeatable process
he could call upon in his book to bolster his new
history! Get an idea of how slowly the falls are
moving backward over time, measure the length of the
gorge and extrapolate the age of the gorge
by dividing the length of the gorge by the
erosion rate! So, in the name of proper and
good science, did he study and measure the erosion
rates over time to get a good handle on the erosion
rate? Pffft! Ha! Ya right! Oh no, no, no. He
instead asked the locals what they thought. He did
find one man who told him “Well I’ve been
eye-balling from this tree on this side to that tree on the
other side, and I’d estimate it’s probably
eroding about 3 feet per year.” So, did Lyell use the locals
wild GUESS in his book? Pffft! ha! Ya right! Oh
no, no, no. That simply would not serve his
secret purposes of refuting the Biblical history in
the minds of the people and replacing history
with his story. No, he assumed the local was
exaggerating and wrote that the falls were eroding at 1 foot
per year! From there it was simple math: he
wrote that a 35,000 foot gorge eroding at 1 foot per
year was 35,000 years old – and the earth could
not possibly be 6,000 years old. You see, everyone in Lyell’s day
knew that, according the Biblical account,
the earth was only around 6 to 10 thousand years
old. So Lyell once again put his
cunning lawyer’s tactic to use in his writing about the
Niagara Gorge. He never mentioned the Bible! He
simply used a modern day process in claiming that the
gorge was 35,000 years old and the earth couldn’t
possibly be 6,000 years old. Everyone who read
Lyell’s book knew what he had just done. He flat out
refuted the Bible – even though he never mentioned
it. So whose erosion estimate was
right? Lyell’s? Or the local man who claimed 3 feet
per year? Well as it turns out, neither. When
actual, true science was conducted, and the erosion
rates were actually measured? The rates were
discovered to be closer to 5 feet per year! Lyell convinced countless
numbers of people around the world that this book was
fiction, when in fact it was his “science” that was
fiction. You could not even call Lyell’s research
flawed, because he didn’t do any research! His
report was dishonest at best. He asked the locals their
opinions. And then, in gross anti-science procedure,
he even tossed out what information he did gather,
and replaced it with his own numbers that he
felt bolstered his story. Had he accurately
reported using actual erosion rates of the day, his
extrapolation would have placed an age of 7,000
years on the gorge. It would have been seen by readers
as affirming the Biblical history! But it gets worse! Well, worse
for Lyell and his new history of deep time. Back
in 2006, I was on speaking tour in the US and was
coming back to Canada. I called up my good
friend, Ian Taylor, author of the phenomenal book
“In the Minds of Men.” I had intended to stop in
to visit him as his home was in Ontario and on the
way back to mine. He got all excited and said “I’m so
glad you called, I was going to call you!” You see,
just that day, this historic drawing of Niagara
Falls had just been reprinted in the newspaper.
This is acknowledged as the first ever
drawing of Niagara Falls, drawn by Father Louis
Hennepin in 1678. I was in Ohio at the time and Ian
faxed me a copy of the drawing. He had the
brilliant idea of seeing if we could figure out where
Hennepin was when he made this drawing. It’s a very disorienting drawing
at first, here’s the horseshoe falls, and then
what is today known as the American falls, an island
in the middle. I’ll elaborate on that island in
a second because previously I (and just about
everyone else) had assumed this was the modern day
goat island. Obviously this would have been
drawn from the New York side of the gorge, so I set
out with fax in hand to Niagara Falls New York
and within 15 minutes I had pinned down where
I think Hennepin was when he made this drawing –
it was obvious. The catch is – the Knights of
Columbus beat me to it! Look at this! At the exact same
location, a hundred years before I got there, in
1910 the Knights of Columbus had placed a stone
monument honouring their priest
and his drawing of the falls which would become the
first ever published drawing of the Niagara
Falls. Why did the Knights of Columbus
and myself come to the exact same conclusion? I
mean – look at it – currently you can’t even see the
falls from this location! In fact, most
historians have written off Hennepin’s drawing as
exaggerated and drawn years after the fact from memory.
HOGWASH! The only reason they say that is because
the falls in Hennepin’s drawing do not look
anything like they do today. That is an el-lame-oh
excuse to reject the accuracy of the drawing,
especially considering the volume of water flowing
through the river was at least double today’s volume
and the drawing was made over 340 years ago! Of
course it’s going to look different! Furthermore the drawing contains
too many accuracies in the gorge to have
been drawn by memory – no, he drew it on
location and that is precisely why the Knights of
Columbus and myself came to the exact same
conclusion on the location. There are major landmarks in the
drawing which are still there today. Notice on the
Canadian side this sharp curve in the shoreline
with a large, rock outcrop and a landing down
below. There is trails where people can venture down to
the landing. On the American side, this
prominent point almost straight across the gorge and
slightly downstream from the landing. Also notice
that the island separating the two waterfalls is
long, narrow, and pointing almost straight down
the gorge. In the 2nd edition of The Complete
Creation, I made the same mistake everybody else did and I
labeled that island as what we now know as
Goat Island. But goat Island is way farther upstream
in Hennepin’s drawing, and is at more than a
right angle to the gorge – not almost parallel to
it. I’ll revisit this island repeatedly, but for
the moment just notice its position, direction,
shape and form. This point in the drawing, is
prospect point. Now it should be noted, that the
original prospect point was quite a bit larger and
more prominent. It collapsed in the 1950’s and as
seen here is reconstructed to look like the
original. It was a prominent vista from which
visitors could enjoy the falls. On the Canadian side, here’s the
shoreline curve in the river with the prominent
rock outcrop. It’s right above a major landing
which today is from where they launch the Hornblower
tourist boats. Then accordingly, this is where
the rim of the falls was during Hennepin’s
visit! Now, from about the 1950’s on,
the erosion rates of the Niagara gorge have been
effectively zero. There are multiple reasons for this:
As much as 80 percent of the flow of the
Niagara River has been diverted around the falls for
hydroelectric projects, the Welland canal, and
the Erie Canal. The International Niagara Parks
commision has also actively buttressed and
reinforced all the rock walls to counter any erosion. So
if the falls at Hennepin’s time were right here,
and we measure to the nearest edge of the modern
day falls, it’s about 3,400 feet. So from
Hennepin’s time to about 1950 when the erosion was
basically halted, you have about 270 years. 3,400 feet
divided by 270 years gives us over 12-1/2 feet
of erosion per year. But if we go by the
furthest point of erosion on the horseshoe falls today,
depending on how and where you measure, it’s actually
about 4,000 to 4,500 feet! That calculates out
to as much as 15 to 16-1/2 feet per year! Now one might say my assumptions
are on shaky ground: my assumptions that Hennepin’s
drawing is accurate and that we can estimate erosion
rates based on that drawing. But you see,
that’s the thing – Charles Lyell had absolutely
ZERO excuse to a) not conduct actual scientific
measurements of erosion rates, or b) to not include the
measurements that HAD already been conducted.
That’s right – there was plenty of data around
decades before Lyell ever came along. This map was the
first ever actual map produced by a survey. It was
compiled by the amazing Andrew Ellicott in 1790
– 51 years before Lyell ever showed up on the
scene, and 112 years after Hennepin’s now famous
drawing. His survey did not include scale
as his surveys and maps were based on longitude and
latitude. However, his map is still very
enlightening. Notice the island which parts the two falls
is long and narrow, pointing only slightly
away from due north and almost parallel with the
gorge. This is in stark contrast to the modern day
Goat Island which is a wide island whose
longitudinal axis runs almost due east/west. Ellicott’s
map lines up with Hennepin’s drawing quite
remarkably. Also bear in mind, at this time the volume of
water flowing over the falls was at least two to
perhaps five times the modern day volume, and
possibly more. As a result, there was radical
changes in the shorelines, as can be seen when
comparing Ellicott’s map to the modern day
river bed. Also notice that Ellicott has
Fort Schlosser marked on his map. Fort Schlosser
provided the upstream docks for the portage around the
falls. The portage trails went from Fort Schlosser
to Fort Niagara on the shores of Lake Ontario. This
was such a well traveled portage and these forts
were both so significant that there is, of
course, maps of the forts and trails – such as this
one by Gothermann compiled in 1788 – 53 years
before Lyell ever showed up on the scene. Notice Gothermann also draws
that parting Island as long, narrow and at about a 45
degree angle to the gorge and due north – much more
in alignment with Hennepin’s drawing from 110
years prior. Gothermann did try to draw his
map to scale, and while his focus was the portage
and not the river or gorge, he does show the gorge
as maybe 31,500 feet long. Compare that to the
same measured path in Google earth of about 37,000
feet. That places the falls during Gothermann and
Ellicott’s time some 5,500 feet downstream from
the current location of the falls. This
certainly lines up with my estimates based on Hennepin’s
drawing. But it gets better – in the
January 1751 issue of Gentleman’s Magazine, a Swedish
man by the name of Peter Kalm writes of his
experience and travels to the great Niagara Falls – 90
years before Lyell ever visited the falls. Kalm
also provided a drawing which again, many
historians poo-poo’d as just being a stylized
reproduction of Hennepin’s drawing, which they claim was
exaggerated and drawn from memory. What is it with you
historians making this claim? Did you not read the
article? Kalm even disparaged Hennepin in the
article, and he drew the falls with details he included
in his story. Details like the ladder the two
stranded Indians made trying to get off of the
island in the middle of the falls after getting
stranded there for days. It shows the major landmarks I
pointed out in the Hennepin drawing: Prospect
point, the curve in the river, now just downstream from
the horseshoe falls, with its prominent rock
outcrop. The major landing at the bottom and even
trails for people to venture down to the landing.
Notice also the island is long and narrow and it curves
slightly and runs virtually parallel to the gorge
downstream from the falls. All the drawings and maps
of that time period show the exact same
thing. Yes, it’s radically different than modern
times – but the conventional thinking has skewed
your perceptions and assumptions. Kalm’s drawing
even matches his very detailed written
description which radically differs from the modern form.
For example: The face of the island being
maybe 130 feet wide or so is a far, far cry from the
very wide face of goat island which is currently
some 1,800 feet wide. That island in the drawings is
not goat island, but rather Luna Island. Luna Island
has long since been eroded away and is now but a
small, insignificant rock in the river. Goat Island
at that time was in all likelihood submerged under
the raging Niagara River. Goat Island was probably
an insignificant rock if it was even peeking up
above the river waters. Remember – the water
volume of the Niagara River was magnitudes higher at
that time. In a letter to the editor of
Nature Magazine, April 2nd of 1891, Edward G. Bourne
revisited the history of using the Niagara Gorge as a
clock. A fascinating read that I would
recommend. He mentions a Mr. Garbett who was
trying to identify the Island mentioned by Kalm in
Gentleman’s Magazine. Bourne wrote: That is all EXACTLY what I am
trying to show here. Luna Island is the Island that
divided the falls, and yes it would lie at almost
right angles to the upper river at its lower end,
but almost parallel to the river in the gorge. He
did not mean Goat Island. And yes, the erosion
rates were magnitudes higher in the past – notice how
Bourne’s estimate of 20 feet per year is not too
far off from my proposal of almost 17 feet per
year. But he rejects it as “untenable.” Why was this
so unbelievable to him? The geology of the Niagara
Gorge would affirm all of this – in fact, the
geology shows erosion rates magnitudes higher than
these huge numbers! First of all, erosion rates by
water volume are exponential. We know the river
volume was at least two times higher in the past
than today’s rates, because we diverted 50% to 80%
of the water volume AROUND the falls! If you double
the flow volume of a river, erosion rates increase
by four times or more! This does not take into
account the possibility of extremely high
flow rates in the ancient past because of
melt-back of ice age glaciers which could have
produced a dramatic increase in water volume. If you visit the falls and gorge
(and I highly recommend you do so!) You can
actually see the different rock types in the
layering exposed in the gorge. The hard and tough
limestone layer at the falls is considerably thicker
than it is immediately downstream from the
falls. The softer shales thicken considerably
while the limestone thins. So the falls would have
eroded the gorge at far faster rates than the modern
rates measured in the 40’s because the water would
have had way thinner limestone to work and
far more of the softer shales to erode. Furthermore, as you go
downstream, the gorge makes some unusual turns. At one turn,
the gorge narrows dramatically. It’s so narrow you
almost feel as though you could throw rocks
from one country to the other. Don’t do that, we’re
currently at peace with one another. The rapids are
quite dramatic here, and on the Canadian side
is the boardwalk. I highly recommend visiting the
boardwalk. This narrow gorge ends at the
whirlpool where the gorge takes a dramatic
right-hand turn. What on earth happened here? Why does
the gorge take a right hand turn? Rivers don’t
just randomly take right hand turns! This question was answered in
1924 with the construction of the Michigan
Central Railway Bridge. When they tried to put
in the pilings for the bridge foundations, they
didn’t hit solid rock. What they did hit was dirt. And
for quite a ways down! What they had discovered
was a previously excavated gorge which is now
known as the Saint David’s Gorge. Before the formation of the
Niagara Gorge, a river had previously cut a gorge –
probably before the ice age. That gorge was then
filled in with dirt – glacial till. Presumably when
the ice sheets from the ice age melted back and the
Niagara River began to flow from Lake Erie, over the
Niagara Escarpment and into Lake Ontario, the river
started carving the new Niagara Gorge. It carved
the gorge upstream until it met the previously cut
Saint David’s gorge, now filled up with loose
sand and small rocks. It would have flushed all that dirt out of that gorge
virtually overnight! When Ontario Hydro constructed
the Sir Adam Beck generating station, it diverted
a massive amount of water from the Niagara River
above the falls, to just above the Niagara
Escarpment. They diverted the water through canals and
tunnels, but when they encountered the buried Saint
David’s gorge, they had to bring all of that water
to the surface and build concrete-lined flumes.
Otherwise the water would just wash away the sand
from the now buried gorge and they’d lose all of
their water. The Saint David’s gorge
comprised some 6,100 feet of the 37,000 foot Niagara Gorge
– so about 1/6th of the entire length of the
Niagara Gorge was probably excavated in DAYS.
Erosion rates of hundreds of feet per day is not
at all an unreasonable suggestion. Lyell was without excuse for
what he published in his book that misled countless
numbers into discounting this book as a
literal history book and embracing his fictitious story
of deep time. You can call Lyell’s work and
writings anything you want, as long as you don’t use
words like “good work,” “accurate,” “scientific,”
or “honest.” Lyell deliberately, and I dare say
deceitfully convinced countless numbers that this book
was fiction, when in fact it was Lyell’s book that
was fiction and consequently the deep time
beliefs. The Niagara gorge, if used as a
uniformitarian clock, actually affirms the Biblical timeline as
the gorge is demonstrably very young. [Narrator]Coming up on the next
Complete Creation… [Ian] The most important fossil
that we will focus on here is the numerous fossil
trees buried upright. These are what caught Lyell’s
attention the most. As you can see, these trees are
buried vertically, if those rock layers equal
millions of years as we are taught, you’ve got a real
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